MLA Waived, 5/24 Non-Restricted, Free Annual Night, 85k Points IHG Chase Card

Please use my link here to apply for the IHG Card. I currently have this card, but got it before the MLA took effect. If you get it now the $89 annual few will be waived per the MLA. This mean by holding on to the card while on active duty means one free night a year. When you spend $2,000 in 3 months and if you add an AU you can get 85,000 points. These points can be use from Hotel brands below:

Top tier hotels like the Intercontinental in Chicago run 50k points a night:

Where as the Holiday Inn runs you about 10k a night. The best part is 4th night is free when booking with points:

With 80k points you can get the Holiday Inn for 3 nights and get the 4th night free. That would be good for two bookings of 4 night and a booking for 2 night for a total of 10 free nights with $2,000 spend in 90 days. I was able to use my points for the ANA Intercontinental in Tokyo for 50k points. The free annual night has been restricted to hotels of 40,000 points or less, and must be redeemed, and stay must be completed, within 12 months from date of issue. This is a bit of a downgrade from the previous card, but for the price of $0 a year its is still well worth it.

-Derp

Split Segments or Tickets to Use 16 AA Gift Cards? Diversify your GCs for 2019!

Edit: Turns out you can’t use gift cards on the return fight as each segment must originate in the USA to use for gift cards.

Tomorrow will be the last month if the first half of the year which should be a wake up call for y’all to get on spending some of your points and gift cards that you have been hoarding. For me I have 24 American Airline Gift Cards from my 12 AmEx Platinum Cards which need to be spent at a max of 8 cards at a time. Since $100 card value is currently the maximum value to auto trigger the $200 annual airline reimbursement, because of the 8 Gift Card cap, I have an $800 cap per booking.

I wanted to send my family to Toronto and noted that both United and American Airlines have separate pricing when it comes to the ORD to YYZ routing depending on booking round trip or two one way segments:

United has followed suit:

According to Google, if you book two separate one-way segments then you would save $35 on American and $38 on United versus booking round trip. Thanks to Google Flights for pointing this out! I went right to the American Website and sure enough for three people it is cheaper to book two one way trips:

And the return:

There was no problem using gift cards for the outbound flight form ORD to YYZ…

However for the return the gift card option was gone:

Silly me! I read the terms here and it is quite clear:

Gift Cards are redeemable toward the purchase of air travel wholly on flights operated by American Airlines, American Eagle® and oneworld® carriers for itineraries sold and originating in the U.S., Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands

Three tickets are $630 each way which you can use 7 gift cards for with $70 in change on the last one. I still plan on using the gift cards for the outbound flight, and then my US Bank Altitude for the return flight for $325 off. Overall I would just be paying $629.16-$325= $304.16 for round trip for 3 to Toronto.

I didn’t book yet because a part of me knows that if I pay for the round trip all with gift cards (just booking one ticket at a time) I would spend zero real dollars. Which in the end I am spending more money, but it would all be gift card money.

Thoughts? Comment below! Moving on…

You got 7 months of 2018 left to spend your credit. I think my folly this year was to not diversify my gift card portfolio. Now that the United Gift Registry looks like it will not open in “Early 2018” as it claims on its site. This may be a sign of the times and we need to anticipate possible loophole shut down procedures happening to other airlines.

For 2019 I am thinking of splitting it up as such:

  • My AmEx Platinum Business (Was Gold): American (Two $100 GC)
  • My AmEx Platinum Business (Derp Report): Delta (Four $50 GC)
  • WIfe’s AmEx Platinum Business: United (Club Membership or 12 Premium Bottles of Wine @ $16 each)

This would allow 35% points back over 3 airlines: Delta, American, and United.

  • My Personal Platinum: American 2*$100
  • Wife’s Personal Platinum: American
  • My MB Platinum: Delta 4*$50
  • Wife’s MB Platinum: Delta 4*$50
  • My Personal Platinum (Was PRG): Southwest One $200 GC
  • Wife’s Personal Platinum (Was PRG): Southwest One $200 GC
  • My Schwab Plat: Southwest ($200)
  • Wife Schwab Plat: Southwest ($200)
  • My Morgan Stanley Plat: American
  • Wife Morgan Stanley Plat: American
  • My Green Upgraded to Plat: American
  • My Ameriprise Plat: American
  • My Hilton Aspire: $250 on one Southwest

Or in a grid form it would look like this:

United Delta AA Southwest
My Biz $200
Wife Biz $200
My Biz 2 $200
Personal Pt $200
Wife Pt $200
MB Pt $200
W MB Pt $200
PRG Now Pt $200
W PRG Now Pt $200
Schwab $200
W Schwab $200
Morgan $200
W Morgan $200
Green now Pt $200
Ameriprise $200
Aspire $250
$3,250 $200 $1,000 $1,400 $650

This should begin in October with my Green to Plat conversion, and then slowly in 01 January 2019 with the rest. This is because January is the month you can choose a new airline every year. Then I will always check flyer talk to make sure these reimbursements still work. What you want to avoid is getting trapped on United after January had passed like a lot of those suckers out there in 2018. Many people (myself included) didn’t see the United Gift registry shutting down!

Because I cant add to the registry, my only way out of this mess is to buy a United Club Membership or drink 12 bottles of premium wine to spend down $200 trapped on their card! I know I have to chose one Business Card to be United to get the 35% points back, so this is my current dilemma.

As for the rest of you with many Platinum Cards, think about selecting other airlines just to make sure your not completely shut down in the future like those that were 100% United.

-Derp

Good Domestic Lounge Locations For AmEx Platinum Holders

For all those out there that have the CSR, keep in mind you only have Priority Pass which is nice for international lounges. When flying domestic, you are out of luck! This is where AmEx comes ahead with their own Centurion lounges, Delta Partnership (Only assessable when flying Delta), Airspace Partnership, and Escape lounge partnership.

I have and always will be a fan of the AmEx Platinum Card strictly for the addional lounge access it provides while traveling. Even if I didn’t get the $550 fee waiver for being in the military, I could easily justify the annual fee with $200 in airline fee waivers, another $200 in Uber credits. I would then be only paying $150 a year for access to all of these lounges below. I added only the restaurant credit Priority Pass locations. In my opinion domestic Priority Pass Lounges are very disappointing as compared to their international counterparts. I haven’t used Priority Pass domestically until they started adding these restaurant credits.

Airport Location Airline Served Name
ATL Concourse A,B,C,D,E,F,T When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
BDL Gate 1 Any Escape Lounge
BNA B3 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
BOS A7, A18 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
CLE Concourse B Any Airspace $10
CLE Gate C4 & C6 Any Bar Symon $28
CVG B14 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
DCA Con B Gate 15 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
DEN Concourse A 4th Floor When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
DEN C Concourse Any Timberline $28
DFW E10 & E11 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
DFW Terminal D D7 Any Via Skylink Train Centurion
DTW C, A68, A18, A38 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
EWR Gate 40 to 47 T-B When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
FLL Gate Info Center When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
HNL Gate 13 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
IAH Terminal D D8 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
IAH Terminal D D6 Any Via Skyway Train Centurion
IND Concourse A When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
JAX Concourse A When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
JFK T2, T4 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
JFK T4 Delta, Virgin, South African, Emirates, Air India, KLM Centurion (Coming Soon)
JFK T5 Aer Lingus, Hawaiian, Jet Blue Airspace $10
JFK T8 Gate 14 American Airlines Bobby Van’s $28
LAS Concourse D D1 Any via train Centurion
LAX T2 and T3 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
LEX B Concourse Any Kentucky Ale $28
LGA Gate 2B, Term C, Term D G2 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
LGA Terminal B Pre Security Any Centurion
MCO Gate 71 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
MEM B/C Connector When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
MIA D12 American Airlines Centurion
MIA D23 & D24 American Airlines Corona Beach $30
MIA H & J Connector When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
MIA Landside E Door 11 Any Air Margartaville $28
MIA Landside E Floor 7 Any Viena $28
MKE D Concourse When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
MSP F/G Concourse, C12 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
MSP T1 Upper Level Not Southwest, Jet Blue, Sun Country, Condor or Iceland air Escape Lounge
MPS T1 Upper Level Not Southwest, Jet Blue, Sun Country, Condor or Iceland air PGA $15
MSY Concourse D Gate 4 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
OAK T1 Gate 9 Any Escape Lounge
ORD E6 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
PBI Concourse C Gate 4 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
PDX C Concourse Departing Any Capers Café $28
POX C6 Any House Sprits $28
PDX D Concourse Departing Any Capers Market $28
PHL Term D When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
PHL Terminal A West Any but near by American Airlines Centurion
RDU Term 2 Gate C3 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
RNO Between Concourse B & C Any Escape Lounge
SAN Above Sunset Cove When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
SAN Terminal 2 Bridge Not Southwest or Alaska Airspace $10
SEA By S-9&10, Con A by Gate 1 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
SEA Concourse B Gate B3 Any Centurion
SFO Term 1 Gate 41 on Con C When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
SFO Terminal 3 Gate 74 E,F,G Concourses (No American, Delta, Southwest, Virgin or Alaska) Centurion
SLC Between C&D When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club
STL Terminal 1 Baggage Any Pasta House $28
STL Terminal 2 Gate E6 Southwest Schlafly Beer $28
TPA Con E gate 68 When Flying Delta Delta Sky Club

Now if you don’t already have an AmEx Platinum Card, please use my links below to apply for one. Keep in mind that if you are active duty or reservist they will waive the $550 annual fee for the Personal Platinum and even the $450 for the Business Platinum.

  1. AmEx Personal Platinum Link
  2. AmEx Business Platinum Link

I got all the information about the longes from these sources:

  1. Delta Lounge Locations
  2. Centurion Lounge Locations
  3. Priority Pass Locations at Restaurants 
  4. Escape Lounges
  5. Airspace Lounges

I have it all in a excel spreadsheet here: AmEx Lounges

Now if you wanted to look at all the domestic Priority Pass Lounges they can be found here. They are often lacking in hot food so I omitted them form the list. Really just stick with the 61 lounges listed above! Happy travels.

-Derp

$28/$15 Food Credit is the New Lounge Access

Edit: To be clear, not every restaurant is participating with Priority Pass. You can check right here for ones that are. Some one has compiled a compiled a complete list here, and here are the ones I know for sure are participating based on reader reports:

The name of the game in airport comfort has changed from isolated little lounges away from the crowds, to free food and drink at an existing airport venues. The one company really pushing this change is Priority Pass (which you get free membership to with your CSR or AmEx Platnum). If you have the Priority Pass card from your AmEx Surpass, you need to cut it up right now as it charges you $27 per lounge visit.

The problem about building a lounge network is simply the approvals needed to build such a space. One Mile at a Time is reporting that AmEx is planning to open a Centurion lounge at LAX. However a bureaucratic nightmare that is the City of Chicago means as of today, no ORD Centurion lounge (which has has been proposed since 2015). ORD has become a tough spot for lounge access since all the Priority Pass lounges are trapped in the restricted Terminal 5. What is left are two Crowded USOs, 3 American Airlines Lounges when flying American, and a Delta Sky Club you can only get to when flying Delta. Before you could get into the United Clubs, but United has been shutting down access to incognito service members.

Frequent Miler and SaveroCity report the growing trend of the $28 credits you can get at airports with your Priority Pass membership. This new strategy saves money by giving directly to these already established venues instead of contracting to some seriously underperforming lounges. PriorityPass can the serve their members without having to wait for new lounges to be built. Also I think they know that they can’t compete with the big boys like AmEx with their giant lounges.

This $28 Priority Pass credit is very innovative because I am all about not paying for overpriced food at the airport like a bitch. If I had to pick between free hot meals in public over cold sandwiches in a private club, then put me with the normies! I was recently at STL which has partnered with Schlafly Brewery and Pasta House to provide $28 worth of credit per member and another $28 for 1 guest. Since I was flying Southwest from STL, I went to the Terminal 2 location by gate E6 at about 8 am and they had this menu for me to order from:

Note that these are midwestern sized portions. My complete breakfast platter was gigantic, and note that all the cocktails are $11.99 which I believe is priced to maximize the $28 for an entree and drink:

At the end of the meal they brought over my check and I swiped my Priority Pass card in the handheld reader like I would have done at a lounge. I left a cash tip of $5, and was full for my flight. I had forgotten that I was with the general population at the gate, but I didn’t mind at all. I just hope this new trend makes it to ORD!

If you don’t Have Priority Pass use my links below to get a MLA military fee waived card:

-Derp

 

 

0/24 Churning: I Forgot About Southwest Airlines!

It has been 6 years since I have flown Southwest Airlines, so I thought I would give it another shot this weekend. The question I got yesterday was what 5 cards I would get if I was at 0/24. I had previously forgotten about Southwest and their companion pass. If you can get 110k points through card bonuses and flying, you can choose a companion that will fly free with you for the rest of the year and the next year. Here are the only possible Chase Cards I would consider (Note: I excluded Business Cards because they do not get MLA waivers):

  1. Chase Sapphire Reserve
  2. Chase United Club Credit Card
  3. Chase United Explorer Credit Card
  4. Marriott Rewards Plus Card
  5. Chase Freedom (5 UR for quarterly category)
  6. Chase Freedom Unlimited (1.5 UR for everything)
  7. Chase Southwest Airlines Rapid Rewards Plus Card (3k bonus points)
  8. Chase Southwest Airlines Rapid Rewards Premier Credit Card (6k bonus points)

Depending on what airlines you fly I would pick 5 from the 8 above. I do not believe that there is any restriction for multiple United Cards, Multiple Southwest cards, or even both Freedom Cards.

Please send some links if you want me to host them on the site.

-Derp

TSP Should Merge With Acorns

My curiosity got the best of me and I went ahead and opened an Acorns account. Mainly because these Acorn backers are so starved for business that they are going to give me a $1,000 bonus (and $5 each referral) if I can get 12 people to use my link before the end of May 2018. Please use my link here if you are at all interested: https://acorns.com/invite/NPJQY7. I for one think that Acorns is really fucking expensive with a fixed management fee of at least $1 a month up to $4,999.99 invested. Investing more than $5k means paying 0.25% per year which is at least$12.50. This may not seem like a lot, but for their target audience of newbie investors with small balances (less than $5k), this is very expensive. I will explain after I show how the scam innovative depositing works.

The basis of this account is to monitor and round up all your credit card or debit card transactions of the linked bank, and take the difference as a digital piggy bank deposit. BoA did this first in their program “Keep The Change” to encourage dumb money to invest in any way possible. They used to match as an intro offer but enterprising people like me would buy $0.01 stamps at the post office to maximize the match.

BoA gives an example of what you can put away as savings on their site. Let’s say you do and buy all of this stupid shit every week:

Great, so it takes you an entire fucking year to put away $286.52. For most of us this is barely enough to buy a single Prada loafer, maybe just one bottle of Dom.

However the target audience for Acorns only puts away $60 a month, and that seems like a good start for your savings for a car or whatever. From the policy genius website:

If you make 50 transactions each month with an average of $.25 rounded up per transaction, you’re only investing $12.50 every month. At that rate, Acorns’ monthly fee is taking away 8% of your contribution to your investment portfolio in your first month.

So Acorns it is an intricate system to rip off the poors encourage automatic savings and investing at a fee that is really high for small balances. All you Active Duty all are better sticking with just putting away 5% of your base pay for 5% match right into a TSP LifeCycle fund at 0.04% management fee. The same $286.52 would only cost you yearly, 11.4 cents on TSP vice 1,200 cents on acorns (110 times more expensive) and it would be just as diversified.

Bottom line if you really want to save for retirement, DO NOT SIGN UP FOR ACORNS if you haven’t maxed out your TSP at $18,500 a year! For non-retirement savings, I would use Commission Free TradeStation right into cheap ETFs like SPY, QQQ, DIA, GVAL, SVOB and balance them as needed.

Now for the fun side of Acorns, I don’t totally hate on it. The interface is completely dumb money proof:

From the first click to the account approval, it can all be done in 10 clicks tops! Just a few questions on goals and risk tolerance you end up with a robot portfolio displayed all fancy like a video game:

It then further breaks down the portfolio in simple english terms:

You can go to the dashboard and deposit funds directly as well, I did $10 so it would not all go to zero before the end of the year!

You can also do a monthly deposit, but I won’t because I am going for the $1,000 bonus then adios!

After setting up my account, I only wonder why TSP could not have been this easy to set up. When this company goes out of business I hope the good folks at TSP.gov use the code to encourage the E-1 to put that 5% away of base pay with a match with just a few clicks of an iPhone App. The interface is nice and clean, videos are easy to view, and the language is very encouraging. Breaking down the balance of the portfolio in simple terms is what TSP lacks. Kudos to Acorns in brining a balanced investing scheme to the masses, but too bad for the high fees compared to TSP and many commission free ETFs out there under 0.25%.

In the meantime, if you know 12 churners ready to make $1,060 bucks (12*$5 BONUS WITH $1,000) paying only $12 in a year of fees, then please go ahead and use my link to get started. Once I hit 12 referrals I will open up the comments section for hosting reader links!

For those seriously considering Acorns as an actual investment, there is an excellent go-by here on how to really churn the application. For the rest of us, get on the Acorn MLM and getting a head start on this reverse funnel investment! You know $1,000 can buy you plenty of stupid shit.

-Derp

Chase Marriott Upgrades Offers

Well according to reddit, you can check Here to see if an offer exists to upgrade your existing Marriott Card to the plus, You can take the survey here to report here on what offer you get (thanks u/kerrigjl).

Above you see my three year card holding brother had gotten an offer of 20K points to upgrade right to the plus. Even though he could close the card and reapply for the plus for the 100k points offer. According to the New Plus Card terms and conditions:

The product is not available to either (i) current cardmembers of the Marriott Rewards Premier or Marriott Rewards Premier Plus credit card, or (ii) previous cardmembers of the Marriott Rewards Premier or Marriott Rewards Premier Plus credit card who received a new cardmember bonus within the last 24 months. If you are an existing Marriott Rewards Premier customer and would like this product, please call the number on the back of your card to see if you are eligible for a product change. You will not receive the new cardmember bonus if you change products.

What is unusual is my wife did not get an offer even after 3 years of card membership, where as my mom on year 2 has a 20k offer. The offer also shows the differences between cards:

For 5/24 sluts such as myself, I could never get either card. I instead downgraded my Ritz to a Marriott and got this offer today:

My advice is those that could never, ever get under 5/24, is to go for it! You would never be able to get the 100k offer with a new plus. For those ready to clean up their act, then close the card and get a new Marriott Plus when 5/24 clears.

For those those get no offer, are under 5/24, and have gone past 24 months for the first bonus, then it might be worth moving credit off this card and closing the account to apply for the new card.

Now the ultimate AD Churn would be get the Marriott Plus for 100k bonus when under 5/24. Then 4 ore resticted cards (Ink, CSR, Freedom< United Club). Then the Ritz under 5/24 exemption, then convert the Ritz to another Plus to maintain he MLA waiver on top of getting another Ritz like I did for my previous back door strategy outlined here. Of course I haven’t hit the initial bonus on my MLA Ritz yet, but I am willing to host any successful datapoints!

Post those Marriott-Plus referals if you got them!

-Derp

 

DerpReport Turns Three!

This 05 May 2018 marks 1096 days or 3 solid years after writing my first DerpReport post. Many thanks to you, the loyal reader, in the reading of the blog, and the helpful feedback. The site would not be possible without you, nor would I have been doing it for so long if there was no demand for it. Your comments and data points keep this site going, and your dedication to report on your own experiences make the site very personal to the unique active duty credit card churning population.

I really would not have been motivated to do this without my dear wife with her many credit cards with sticky notes of instruction in her purse. Thanks babe for playing along with the spend category maximization game! The greatest support is to being there with me on the redemption side of our points. Our wacky trips to far flung places for free have kept this hobby going.

In the spirit of a 3 year anniversary lets look back at my greatest hits and misses in the last three years:

Hits

  1. Earning 150% of Miles and Segments Via ANA Experience Japan Fares
  2. Star Alliance Lounge Access with SCRA (or MLA) waived United Club Card
  3. Brining Your Own Unlocked Phone to Japan to use on AU or SoftBank
  4. Living at the Park Hyatt Tokyo like Mr. Bob San for Free
  5. Ritz Kyoto Stay For Free
  6. $995 Waived Annual Fee For Gold Luxury Card
  7. Viewing Cherry Blossoms and Ferraris From The Tokyo Ritz
  8. Hilton Diamond via Back Matching
  9. Rick Barry Is A Model of Indexing
  10. Chase Private Client Is A Fucking Joke
  11. AmEx and MPX Means Free Leather Shoes (Shutdown)
  12. Exploiting Super Subsidized EAS Routes 
  13. BRS As Premature Separation Insurance
  14. Brad Wilson Churn With Gold Krugerrands
  15. Uber Eats Works for AmEx $200 Yearly Credit
  16. US Bank Altitude Card Is Well Worth It (Now MLA Waived)
  17. Easy French Laundry Reservations With AmEx Platinum
  18. Hyatt Family Rate Means 2 Rooms Cheap

Misses

  1. Premature Prediction That 5/24 Will Kill Churning
  2. Movements of $5,000 in Cash Will Get You Shut Down
  3. AmEx Tier One Super Card To Crush CSR
  4. ZERO Debit Card Will Be Real
  5. Green AmEx Everyday Cash Card is Real
  6. We Broke Barclay Gold
  7. Air Berlin Goes the Way of East Germany

What are all your memories from the before time of DerpReport?

-Derp

Groundlink Glitch Fixed (For New Cards)

I wrote about the $20 bonus for Visa Signature and a $30 bonus for having a Visa Infinite card for adding my Visa cards to Groundlink in this post. Unfortunately I got super greedy by adding ALL of my Visa Signature and Infinite cards for $300 in credit. I never got to use the credits, and they shut my account down like the rest of us greedy bastards! After 4 months of emails, they reopened my account recently minus all my credit. I went in today and added my new Visa Infinite Ritz card and got $30 off my airport ride this morning.

I used it in conjunction with E-Bates and got 1.5% Cash Back on top of all that! When I added the Ritz card I got the email, and when I booked an economy car they sent a GMC Yukon XL!

More room than I could ever use!

Then I got my sweet 1.5% on Ebates:

Here is how I did it:

  1. Sign up for ground link here
  2. Sign up for Ebates here
  3. Add your Visa Card (infinite) here or here (Signature)
  4. Book one trip for that day only, do not add all you cards or you will get shut down!
  5. Repeat with every trip with another Visa Infinite or Signature card

The original idea came from here and the shut down discussion is here. Here were all of my cards from last run, I am going to add them each again, and just take the ride immediately to prevent another shutdown:

Don’t get too greedy! or you might get this email like some other people who added all their cards at once:

Dear GroundLink account holder,

While conducting an Audit of our promotional programs it has come to our attention that your Visa Infinite or Signature card has been submitted multiple times to receive multiple credits. Under our terms of service it states:

· Upon card validation, U.S. Visa Infinite or Signature cardholders get one promotional credit that can be applied toward a GroundLink reservation booked with that card. Limit 1 promotional credit per card.

For this reason, we have adjusted your accounts to reflect the correct number of credits. If you have any questions please email CSSupervisor@groundlink.com .

GroundLink Team

Update: I tried to add an old card where I had gotten the credit before and it gave me this:

However I NEVER GOT TO USE THIS CREDIT! I reached out to GroundLink and they have yet to fix it!

 

-Derp

 

2 Days Left to Get Original Marriott Rewards Premier Card (75k) with MLA waiver

UPDATE: Application is alive and unfortunately you can’t get both cards! More info here.

I am personally going to wait for the upgrade offer here.

Edit: Reader Miles says:

In addition to the 6x and 2x categories, the annual certificate on the new Marriott Plus card is good for stays of up to 35,000 points – versus 25,000 points on the current card.

I heard on another blog, a Chase rep said you could not hold both cards. But I don’t remember where that [was].

If this is the case then I would upgrade the existing MLA non plus Marriott card to another Ritz if they would allow that. Then applying for the Marriott Reawards Plus card. Not sure if you can hold on to two ritz cards, but I can be your datapoint! More discussion can be found here regarding multiple Marriott products.

The application site is up for the New Marriott Rewards Plus Card and will start taking applications in 2 days! For those that are 0/24 churn virgins, you may be able to double dip with the existing original Marriott Product with a 75,000 bonus by using the links: here and here. Then hopefully in two days get this new card with another 100,000 point bonus. From TPG:

Marriott Rewards Premier Plus Credit Card, which will be available beginning May 3, 2018, and carry a $95 annual fee. In addition to a 100,000-point new cardmember sign-up offer — after spending $5,000 in the first 90 days

Hopefully there will be no restriction in having multiple versions of the same product like they have done with Sapphire and Freedom. My understanding is you can still have multiple United Products, and I hope the Marriott will be no different. Also I hope the don’t consider the Plus the same product as the old product and you can get both bonuses for a total of 175,000 as well as two free annual nights worth 35,000 points each! Please use the link and let me know how it goes:

I would not plan on upgrading this one to the plus until an offer is made to upgrade the existing product. The difference of the plus (Besides being $10 more expensive) is 6x Marriott points instead of 5x, 2x on everything instead of just travel. Also the plus has a 35k free night insted of a 25k free night. The 15 night status credits will be nice, but I hope that we still get status from our AmEx Platinum cards. Not sure if two cards means 30 nights a year, but they discuss it here!

For those that need proof on Chase MLA waivers, I got my annual fee waived for my $450 annual fee Ritz-Carlton card per the MLA on 21 April 2018:

Thank You Chase! This is all speculation on my part since I cannot apply for any of these products myself since I am well beyond 5/24! Please report back if you end up being able to have bot the plus and non-plus Marriott products!

-Derp